There is a Minimum Loading Time

AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
edited September 2012 in Working with GS (Mac)
Today I tested to see how long it takes a completely EMPTY GameSalad project to load on my iPad 1. It took about 6 seconds. Then I realized that's how long it takes my game, Tank to load. Does this mean that there is a minimum loading time for GameSalad games?

Here is a video of it in action.
I don't now why it goes gray for a second, must be the uploading process.
And no, I don't have scissors hands :)

Comments

  • tatiangtatiang Member, Sous Chef, PRO, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 11,949
    Edward, are you comparing an empty ad hoc version to an ad hoc version of your Tank app, or are you timing the empty version in GameSalad viewer?
  • AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2012
    Both the empty project and my game were in ad hoc form when they were tested. Also, keep in mind that my game is about 20MB.

    I was using scissors to see what kinds of objects does the touch screen react to.
  • creativeappscreativeapps Member Posts: 1,770
    edited September 2012
    Go With Tables or Wait for Lua FREE just like me and others.
  • AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
    Go With Tables or Wait for Lua FREE just like me and others.
    This project is completely EMPTY. It should load immediately, tables or not.
  • AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
    If anyone's game has a loading less than 6 seconds, please comment to let us know.
  • RPRP Member Posts: 1,990
    That is a way long time to load a 20 MB game.

    The video you posted appears to not only stick at the splash screen, but it also seems to force quit? Can you explain (or did you quit it)?

    I have seen splash screen/load screens cause this delay. Try a build with any music/animation and actors turned off/ removed from that scene (or in your publish settings). Maybe something there is the culprit.
  • AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2012
    That is a way long time to load a 20 MB game.

    The video you posted appears to not only stick at the splash screen, but it also seems to force quit? Can you explain (or did you quit it)?

    I have seen splash screen/load screens cause this delay. Try a build with any music/animation and actors turned off/ removed from that scene (or in your publish settings). Maybe something there is the culprit.
    The game in the video is completely empty project. You can't see it, but I closed the game after it was finished loading.

    I have recently found that the GameSalad video that used to appear when free members published their games was 5 seconds long. Could this be why it takes so long for games to load now?
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    There is likely a minimum to some degree. Even an empty project still has stuff to load. On my older published games it looks like load time is about 3 seconds. It's probably partly your device and partly the fact that it still has to load the game engine even though there's nothing there.
  • RPRP Member Posts: 1,990
    what @tenrdrmer just said plus, the fact that it does at least go directly to the splash screen, rather than sitting on a blank screen before loading is a sign things are okay.
    If it sat there that long before loading an image or splash screen, you'd hate it even more and Apple would likely reject it thinking it was a broken app.
  • AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2012
    what @tenrdrmer just said plus, the fact that it does at least go directly to the splash screen, rather than sitting on a blank screen before loading is a sign things are okay.
    If it sat there that long before loading an image or splash screen, you'd hate it even more and Apple would likely reject it thinking it was a broken app.
    That is not the point. A completely EMPTY project should not take the same amount of time to load as a project that was to big to download over the air a few months ago. If there even is a minimum, it is a lot going to be near six seconds.
  • RPRP Member Posts: 1,990
    edited September 2012
    I think you're missing what other variables we are suggesting here. Your game is clearly not "empty", you do have a splash screen at start up, there is also the GS engine/resources that will of course take up a chunk of your project size, which will variate due to the addition and removal of GS components via updates. In terms, a new GS game file is not empty, but the fuctioning foundation of a working application is all right there.

    I'm not seeing stalled start up times unless used on legacy iOS devices.

    The iPad 1 is older tech, more importantly it is not arm7. There are many apps that launch/run slower on older devices (particularly devices that support older iOS and open GL and yes ARM7's NEON does make a huge difference). While GS has undergone updates your ipad which has remained untouched spec wise, has a lot more lawn to mow to make the yard look nice. Unfortunately iOS optimizations plus third party engine updates and older apple hardware don't always equate to improvement.
  • AcceleratedGamesAcceleratedGames Member Posts: 201
    I think you're missing what other variables we are suggesting here. Your game is clearly not "empty", you do have a splash screen at start up, there is also the GS engine/resources that will of course take up a chunk of your project size, which will variate due to the addition and removal of GS components via updates. In terms, a new GS game file is not empty, but the fuctioning foundation of a working application is all right there.

    I'm not seeing stalled start up times unless used on legacy iOS devices.

    The iPad 1 is older tech, more importantly it is not arm7. There are many apps that launch/run slower on older devices (particularly devices that support older iOS and open GL and yes ARM7's NEON does make a huge difference). Unfortunately iOS optimizations plus third party engine updates and older apple hardware don't always equate to improvement.
    I understand all of that know. Thanks for the clarification. I never thought that you a game would still have an engine on it if its empty.
    While GS has undergone updates your ipad which has remained untouched spec wise, has a lot more lawn to mow to make the yard look nice.
    :))
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