Speculation - What is Project Masala?

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  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    old_kipper said:
    My suspicions for Masala are not android, but are more inline with some of what you got a certain sous to smiley at.

    Yeah, I think it's HTML 5 / web based editing. It's what makes the most sense.
  • simo103simo103 Member, PRO Posts: 1,331
    I had a different thought on this .... I think it is clear that each GS user has different things/features they might value over other things/features and thus the 'melt your face' might only melt some faces. So I tried to piece a few things together .... taking what we don't know (ie: we know Android is coming, leadboards, achievements etc). And other things that have happened but aren't mentioned .... Darren's and TSB's templates were picked up by GS. So here's my guess ... Masala is an addition to GS that uses parts of those templates and has drag and drop components right in GS. Want a platform that moves back and forth .. drag and drop ... want to roll your actor .. drag and drop. All behavours and attributes all there with a special adjustment window for the whole part .. adjust gravity, direction, size, etc in one dialog box. Just think about that for a second ... speed up the repetative stuff so we can focus on the custom parts that make games unique/polished???? Just a thought. Hey GS if I'm right can I have PRO for a prize? Just kidding willing/happy to pay when I need it, small cost for such a great tool.
  • GamersRejoiceGamersRejoice Member Posts: 817
    Maybe it has to do with universal versions?
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    simo103 said:
    Darren's and TSB's templates were picked up by GS.

    When did this happen?

    Isn't that a bad idea? Wouldn't that make many GameSalad games look the same?

    Although, if the templates were sold, it's a great way to kick-start the marketplace. That's not until the Summer though.

    I don't think templates are face-melting though. That's basically common sense. If they're implementing Darren and Wayne's tools into the software, that's a good improvement... not really face-melting either though.
  • mynameisacemynameisace Hull, UKMember Posts: 2,484
    Tshirtbooth made a Plants Vs. Zombies template and Darren made the Platform V2.0, GS purchased both of these off them.

    Ace
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    If it's just the two templates, maybe they will become part of the default templates that are included with GameSalad.
  • simo103simo103 Member, PRO Posts: 1,331
    Photics said:
    Isn't that a bad idea? Wouldn't that make everyone's game look the same?

    No I guess I didn't convey my thoughts correctly. Imagine they create Components to go with behaviours. Not a template but drag and drop components that are actors with attributes and behaviours attached. Drag them in your scene and edit through a combined edit panel.
  • mynameisacemynameisace Hull, UKMember Posts: 2,484
    As cool as it'd be, it doesn't fit in to the 'potentially industry changing' category that Steve said it'll be.

    Ace
  • m456arcusm456arcus Member Posts: 189
    simo103 said:
    No I guess I didn't convey my thoughts correctly. Imagine they create Components to go with behaviours. Not a template but drag and drop components that are actors with attributes and behaviours attached. Drag them in your scene and edit through a combined edit panel.

    I was thinking the same thing actually. If they had pre - made actors ready to go, it would really open GS up to a greater audience, and shorten the learning curve.
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    mynameisace said:
    Tshirtbooth made a Plants Vs. Zombies template and Darren made the Platform V2.0, GS purchased both of these off them.

    Ace

    That makes a little better sense. I was wondering the Same as Photics. And thought man if they are now going to be free to everyone they more or less have screwed anyone who bought them upfront. I personally feel the same about them implementing the tools also though. It just doesn't seem right to sell it now and then once most people have paid for it to turn around and give it for free.

    I know thats partly how business works but at the same time it's pretty shady if you ask me.
  • osucowboy18osucowboy18 Member Posts: 1,307
    Incorporating templates, in my opinion, is not industry changing. While it would give us some more options, it doesn't exactly melt my face. Guess we will just have to wait and see :)

    - Alex
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    simo103 said:
    No I guess I didn't convey my thoughts correctly. Imagine they create Components to go with behaviours. Not a template but drag and drop components that are actors with attributes and behaviours attached. Drag them in your scene and edit through a combined edit panel.

    I think understood what you meant. Like Code Monkey's controller example, you could just drag-and-drop the controllers onto your game. I think that's cool, but not really industry changing.

    Also, that's different than buying templates. That's surprising to me. While the default GameSalad templates are not the best, that's a problem the Marketplace can solve.

    Why would GameSalad buy them instead of making their own?
    Why would the developers sell their templates? (Were they offered a lot of money?)

    Theories...

    1 - GameSalad wants to crush the template market. That seems unlikely. Otherwise, why put the marketplace on the roadmap?

    2 - GameSalad just wants a few new templates, to make the default examples more presentable.
  • tenrdrmertenrdrmer Member, Sous Chef, Senior Sous-Chef Posts: 9,934
    Photics said:
    I think understood what you meant. Like Code Monkey's controller example, you could just drag-and-drop the controllers onto your game. I think that's cool, but not really industry changing.

    Also, that's different than buying templates. That's surprising to me. While the default GameSalad templates are not the best, that's a problem the Marketplace can solve.

    Why would GameSalad buy them instead of making their own?
    Why would the developers sell their templates? (Were they offered a lot of money?)

    Theories...

    1 - GameSalad wants to crush the template market. That seems unlikely. Otherwise, why put the marketplace on the roadmap?

    2 - GameSalad just wants a few new templates, to make the default examples more presentable.

    #1 maybe not crush it but capitalize on it would be smart of them. Maybe they just don't have time to build good templates.

    #2 That is definitely a must however as we have seen so far those templates as is have been submitted to the app store so they are going to have to determine some way to keep blatant copy and paste submissions from going through.
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    IF MASALA IS ONLINE GAMESALAD DOES THAT MEAN I CANT USE IT ON THE ROAD!?!!?
  • SparkyidrSparkyidr Member, PRO Posts: 2,033
    ....probably
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    IF MASALA IS ONLINE GAMESALAD DOES THAT MEAN I CANT USE IT ON THE ROAD!?!!?

    Y do we need it to be online anyway? How is that significant?
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    The smoking Gun?

    http://gamesalad.com/careers/
    Frontend Web Developer (Austin)

    GameSalad, Inc. is seeking a full-time Frontend Web Developer to oversee the implementation and design of GameSalad’s Online UI.

    Maybe I should apply for that job. It seems cool.
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    ugh :/
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    NextGenEntertainment said:
    How is that significant?

    If GameSalad goes into the cloud, you could use a PC, Mac, iOS device, Android Device, or most other web connected devices to create GameSalad apps.

    Heh, I'm imagining using my Wiimote to add new content to BOT.
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    LMFAO! But i think they should have it based on an application. And there is some sort of server that backs everything up on the web where you can also edit.
  • osucowboy18osucowboy18 Member Posts: 1,307
    This very well could be what Project Masala is!!! The official announcement should be coming in the next week or so :)

    - Alex
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    great? BTW, how do you no that?
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    "tshirtbooth
    Sous Chef
    :)

    thats all i will say!"

    Do you know what it is then?
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    osucowboy18 said:
    The official announcement should be coming in the next week or so :)

    Why do you think that? Masala is not part of 0.9.3... and that's two weeks away. Second week of May in developer speak means late Friday... FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH!

    Maybe they should launch on the Thursday before, to ease those that might suffer from triskadekaphobia.
  • osucowboy18osucowboy18 Member Posts: 1,307
    NextGenEntertainment said:
    great? BTW, how do you no that?

    In his post about the GameSalad 2011 Road Map, Steve said Project Masala would be coming "next month". So, since his post is 3 weeks old, that would lead to the assumption that the official announcement is going to be in a couple of weeks. However, you do make a good point Photics, I guess it could be as late as June before the announcement...God forbid

    - Alex
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    The road map is not set in stone, more like #2 pencil. I think Masala got erased and pushed back. The recent job posting suggests that Masala got bumped.
  • osucowboy18osucowboy18 Member Posts: 1,307
    That very well could be. Besides I just remembered that Yoda made the comment that Masala would NOT be part of the 0.9.3 update :(

    - Alex
  • RedlerTechRedlerTech Member Posts: 1,583
    Photics said:
    The road map is not set in stone, more like #2 pencil. I think Masala got erased and pushed back. The recent job posting suggests that Masala got bumped.

    yes, I can see that happening.
  • PhoticsPhotics Member Posts: 4,172
    tshirtbooth said:
    The templates were to show off at SXSW so people can see what GS can do and so people could play around with them. we have no clue what they plan on doing with them now but that is not what Project Masala is.

    Did they buy the rights to the templates?
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